Bill

his name was Bill Ray. Site is a mountain. It is bitter cold and windy,

you know bill was on night duty but he's not here today and I don't really know who that was

You know, but you're not necessarily going to share every little nuance of, hey, I went to get a frappuccino and I ran into Bill and he told me his dog needs to be walked and just got shot to the vet.

over again it's not like the military industrial complex has a problem saying yes to a bill if it's

and he was he was a senior staffer for bill co in senator bill co in and then later when bill

They were basically told, Bill, one of these from the pieces, is make it work and explain

Fologist Bill Moore and Stan Friedman to interview them for the documentary. They're showing this. He closes the motel door.

He was in propulsion. He knew Bill Moore, who was fluent in French, was a crony of his. And he spoke French in the O.A. documentary. Victor did kind of, I think like a homage. I don't think that's crazy. The biggest thing is a guy named Phil Klotz, Phil Klass.

high school, that they hired his name was Bill Mums. He said, I can't tell you it's real or not. It does not have creases under the armpits like every foam, animatronic dial that's been made. And another thing is this was definitely 1,000% filmed on 16 millimeter. I said, Bill, why is that unusual? He said, well, really, the only people that filmed on 16 millimeter in the in the early 90s till now, or, you know, maybe some some motion picture, if they want to have all time film. But the government is not going to be able to do that.

And then send your doop victor to other networks to sell the tape before he comes to you. It just sounds too secure. She's cute. And to too much, even Bill Mums, this a special effects expert said they would have just filmed this on VHS tape and put it out. They would have never went through the steps of 16 millimeter to VHS. And Victor said he was the one that did that.

the pilot who is flying that hairier jet. You think he got Bill film footage of it?

the money the next day to pay up my phone bill and all this other stuff. And and the woman,

I went inside the facility went into the flight security controller office which was just right to the right as you open the front door and Bill Holliman he was a staff sergeant he was talking to his wife back at Ellsworth and the toggle switch or the rocker switch was on the wall just behind him right next to the entrance of the elevator door with the officers used to go down the elevator to the capsule.

And I said hey Bill I said there's something out here strange in the air I said some lights I said do you mind if I flip my lights at this flip the lights at this thing.

So he comes outside I said hold on right there we walked about twenty twenty five feet and I said look at that you see that goes yeah I just flash the lights at that thing and it flash back at me and he just looked at me as in disbelief so I said stay right here and I ran and you're all fast and I said hey Bill you gotta come see this thing because he and I we went back

gone ran back outside I know Bill Holman thought I was a nut by that time so I get back out there and it flipped off and it did

and it sounds like and you it rings until you pick it up you got a snatch it off the wall and of course Bill Holleman did that and he I hear him

Uh bill hollumon the site cook

There was this if somebody struck a liberty bill right next to my head

Where you ran in and you started signaling what that what you thought was a b 52 at the time. What was the name Bill holiman?

Bill holiman. I have done touch with bill. Well, I know as William William something holiman. We called him Bill

And so you just never saw Bill again

No, maybe a guard mount once or twice. Hey, Bill. That kind of thing just passing here say hey, Bill