Russians

it as a threat you know the the russians never thought it was a threat i mean you you and their george uh

The Russians certainly are going to keep secrets and the Chinese even more.

And then at the end of it, you find it's a hoax by the DIA or something to fool the Russians about something.

apparently all the Russians

He says, this is the thing though. He says, the Russians have been moving agents into the United

This is important because it shows up again in New Orleans because all those Russians around Lee

going on until the other Russians found out that he was talking to us, uh, in which case they pushed

Operation Paperclip as a purely American phenomenon, which it was, but the Russians had their own

version of Paperclip. And the Russians brought more than 3,000 scientists and their families into

then we realized the Russians brought in three times that many, right? So wild.

With the Chinese government that there was something that crashed in Chinese territory. I think the Russians got it, though.

But like of the Soviets or the Russians?

The Chinese have a big chunk, and the Russians have it, and all the other countries that have

the Russians on American troops who then come out and say they love the Soviet Union or they love

russians this is not made by us someone else is operating this we did not have control over it

you're american you're hunting for the russians and it's pitch black and you know and then there's

there is a race for this technology. Us, the Russians, the Chinese, maybe the Israelis.

I met with these officials who, you know, during that time period, glasnost, perestroika, the Russians were trying to open up to the world.

What happened to the Russians that came forward to you in 1993, and were there any repercussions for them?

If we are racing for it, to master that technology against the Russians and the Chinese, which is what I have been told by Senator Reid and many others, then it is a race that's critical to our survival.

Two of those pilots died. And after that, the Russians changed the standing order.

And the Russians didn't either.

There's a price to be paid for that too. The Russians and Chinese are trying to figure this, this out as well, but they're, they don't have the same kind of stigma.

As I understand it with your computer because of the Russians, you don't know it's the Russians.

Russians.

So I saw Chinese, I saw Russians, I saw other scientists.

I wonder if that was the big thing that made the Russians leave.

Is the Russians disparted.

And they were working very closely with the Russians.

And if you're working with the Russians,

get the Russians out of here,

Whereas the two Russian incidents, we were there to watch the Russians,

and their Russians interactions with this technology.