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You know, many people in the disclosure movement have been hoping from Washington, D.C. that we
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would get members of Congress, the White House, to unleash the files. Show us everything. Pull
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back the cloak. Show us what happened at Roswell. Where are these craft being held? What bodies do
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you have? Are they at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base? Where are they? And we want this information
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and no one wants it perhaps more than our next guest. That's a filmmaker, James Fox,
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who helped put on this new event this week in Washington, D.C., alongside investigative
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journalist Leslie Kane, where you had members of Congress joined by UAP whistleblower David Grush
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on the steps of the Capitol. This really historic press conference calling for the declassification
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of UAP-related records and renewed legislative action around government transparency. So are
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we any further along in this process? James Fox joins us now. James, great to have you here,
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my friend. Welcome back to the show. Oh, thanks so much for having me on. I just have to apologize
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to your audience ahead of time. I've had probably two hours sleep in the last three days. Oh boy.
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All right. Well, I do my best. I know. I have some really incredible things to talk about with you
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today. Like moments in my career. I've been at, I've been at this for over 30 years where,
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uh, I almost had an outer body experience, uh, with, with some of the things that I've been hearing,
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uh, lately. Um, yeah. So where do we start? Well, maybe we start with, I want to get to all of that.
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Sure. Um, please, for sure. Um, but let's start with one of the big kind of press moments was David
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Grush on the steps of the Capitol when he was asked, like, what type of alien bodies do we have?
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Does the government know about interacted with different aliens? And he explained as he's
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explained, I think in congressional testimony before, but to hear it on, on live television
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at the Capitol steps, here is David Grush explaining this. Listen,
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I certainly don't have the compendium. It's a continuum from, uh, corporeal bipedal type life
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to, you know, what I would consider is like sentient plasmoid life. But there are, there are several
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that the U S government is aware of. So that moment, it was just like, uh, Hey, by the way,
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you know, plasmoids, intelligent plasmoids. Okay. This is like new into the vernacular. I know
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definitely people have been covering plasmoids, but that we have, that we know about this sentient
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life plasmoids. Are we working with them? Have we seen them? How do we have these, uh, bipedal
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creatures that we've been working with? We have in our possession. We know about how are we working
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with them? Like that moment got played. That moment went viral. Okay. So, uh, probably about a,
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two weeks ago we were having meetings on the Hill, um, with members of Congress. We, we brought in a,
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um, a PR firm, uh, 42 West, and we were having a meeting with, with, with staff members, bipartisan.
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We had, um, Luna, Burchett, uh, Burleson. We had representative from Moskowitz office. We had
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number of, of, of, of chiefs of staff like present. And, um, I can't reveal what was said.
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I thought it was going to be said at the actual event that we had yesterday in DC with, um, Mr.
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Grush. But, uh, I was sort of, you know, I, I said, uh, look, you know, someone who's on the
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outside looking in and someone who's got their finger on the pulse with the frustration of,
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um, the general public and the mainstream media. It's like, you know, show me the evidence.
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Yeah. I understand that frustration very much. And, uh, we were addressing, and I'll get to what
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I'm about to say in a moment. Just be patient with me, please. Cause this is important. Very
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important. I said the argument we were making, and this is Leslie and myself was look, we understand
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the justification for secrecy on the technology, because whether you believe it or not, if, if it,
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if the allegations are true, and of course I'm convinced they are, that we have recovered highly
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advanced technology, uh, of non-human origin, then if it falls into the wrong hands, that technology
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can be weaponized. Um, you know, I remember what Dave Fravor had talked about, you know, this tic-tac,
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no wings, no visible means of propulsion, flew rings around our fastest, you know, jets. Uh, you know,
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you put a, put a nuke on that and, uh, it's, it's, it's game over for us. Right. So you can imagine,
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like, if that's true, the justification for secrecy for, it's a national security issue. Right. So I was making
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this argument with Leslie, when we were meeting with members of Congress, we were mapping out
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our press conference. I said, but like the, the non-human, like, I want us to use the word alien,
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but non-human, uh, sentient beings, that should be a right for everyone to know. That evidence should
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be disclosed. And everyone's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. You know, then, uh, what,
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Mr. Grush revealed to all of us, what he had seen with his own eyes left the room speechless.
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It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked at everybody in that room and their eyeballs were
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popping out. My jaw was on the floor. Like I, I simply couldn't believe what he, what he'd seen
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with his own eyes. Like I can't wait for it to come out. So I asked Mr. Grush today, um,
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can I talk about what I heard? And he's like, no, but I will be addressing it very soon.
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So that's where we stand right now, but I can tell you, Mr. Grush has seen evidence that
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will leave you slack jawed when you hear it.
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So I felt it's coming. It's coming.
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So I'm like you, I'm, I'm so damn frustrated, you know, like, you know,
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I mean, I know, and I know you trust me, man, this is, you've devoted your whole life, this
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traveling around the world, trying to get this information out. So I was there, you know,
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I had Leslie Kane on my show on when I worked on Fox and friends back in the day on Fox news
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before the revelations that came out of the New York times article and what she was working on.
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And so I thought, here's the moment 10 years ago, James, can you believe it's been 10 years since
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we have the tic tac story appearing in the fricking New York times and these people keep stonewalling and
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stonewalling and they keep telling us, Oh, this is classified. Like who's preventing David
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Grush from telling us this stuff? That's the most frustrating part of this.
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So, uh, you know, um, Mr. Grush is legitimately concerned about his personal safety.
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Um, he's coming out with it. I promise you, this is coming out. He assured me today
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that he will address this issue to the general public very soon in the near future. So I can't
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speak to what he's going to say, but I'm just telling you from what I heard out of his mouth
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in, you know, in sitting in an office of a member of Congress and everybody in the room, you could,
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you could have heard a pin drop. Can you give us a hint? Can you give us a hint? Can you give us a hint?
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Can you, um, is it related to crap? Can you maybe dance around it a little bit? Um, I want to say
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you're killing me smalls. Um, yeah. So if you can imagine, if you know about moment of contact
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that involves captured, uh, non-human intelligent beans, just think about that for a minute.
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Think about that case. Oh, by the way, moment of contact is available for free on, uh, YouTube
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movies and, uh, to be right now, the new version moment of contact. There's a newer version, that one
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is well, but there's a newer version that involves testimony from a neurosurgeon, um, and sort of
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compilation of the congressional lines moment of contact new revelations. It's available for free.
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So I encourage your audience to go watch it. It's incredible. I want to watch that movie.
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It'll make you believe here if you're not by the way. Yeah. One of, one of, one of the, uh,
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comments that happened yesterday, uh, you know, and again, people are frustrated, like,
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oh, we want the goods. Yeah. So do we. Yeah. So do we. This is a process. Okay. We made a plea yesterday
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directly to the president of the United States. That's what the primary objective was yesterday,
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was that Mr. President, we understand that there is, there are legitimate national security issues
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related to the technology. Okay. We can acknowledge that we have it, but the beans, the non sent, you
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know, the, the non human sentient beings, that is information that should be allowed to all of us.
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And I, I'm going to reach out. I'm going to say this right now. We need like the Joe Rogans,
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you know, Logan Paul, like all the young influencers out there to get behind this movement. And the movement
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is let's declassify the aspect of the phenomenon that deals with non human sentient beings. That
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should not be an issue of national security. Release those files, release the files related to
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Virginia. I don't know if you heard Aldo Rebelo, the former Brazilian minister of defense publicly stated,
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he met with, with, with Jesse Michaels. He also gave me a statement to be presented to the world. Like
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Virginia happened. Virginia happened. Non human sentient beings were captured. This is the former
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ministry of defense of Brazil, Aldo Rebelo going on the record today. He's also a presidential
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candidate. He's saying, America, if you release the files, I'm quite confident that Brazil could do
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the same on, on Virginia. This is what's happening right now. And here's the thing, like, you don't
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have to believe that the case happened. You don't have to believe that we have aliens in our possession
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to get behind this call to action. We are sending a very specific, direct message to President Trump
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right now. Release the files related to non human sentient life. That should not be an issue of
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national security. And I'm asking, I'm calling upon all the influencers out there, particularly Joe
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Rogan, please get behind this movement. Please help amplify, amplify this message. We need your help.
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This is happening now, right now. That's amazing. So what you heard from, from David Grush left members.
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My jaw was on the floor, on the floor, on the floor. I hope he, you guys, you guys should hear it too.
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And the president of the United States needs to hear it.
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I swear. You make a great point, which is, okay, I get, I get the advanced plasmoid technology or
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whatever. Yeah. Anti-gravity technology. Do we want that falling into the hands of, you know, whomever?
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I get it. I get it. For national security reasons, you know, time travel, whatever. Like we don't want
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people to have access to this. I get it. I don't know. But to your point about the non, you know,
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non-human biologics, what is that? How is that a threat? How, you know, and if we have it, clearly
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other countries have it. Clearly, probably Russia has it. Clearly, probably China has it. Brazil certainly has it.
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But just release this information. Let us know where these bodies are being kept. Are they at
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Wright-Patterson Air Force Base? How many do we have?
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This is a call to action right now. Let me read you a statement that, that Grush, a lot of people
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missed yesterday. I actually, excuse me, I actually talked to Leslie about this because I said,
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I want to be able to mention this because this is important. Okay. Mr. Grush yesterday publicly said
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there have been several dozen, several dozen cases involving the government examining what he called
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non-human biologics. Okay. Let that sink in. Please let that sink in. He was exposed to US-held audio,
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visual, okay, visual, info on recovered vehicles and the associated biologic materials. And we are making
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a direct plea to President Trump right now to release those files that he has seen.
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And he could confirm it. Yeah. So we know we have video files. We know we have videos,
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not just the blurry stuff that they released in that first tranche or whatever. Like, okay,
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we have videos of bodies. We have videos of craft that David Grush has seen. He can verify it. He'll
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know the moment that these are now released from the DOJ, uh, the Pentagon. Look, look, if Mr. President
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Trump reached out and look, I know that people say, well, this is political. No, you know, President
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Trump has the authority to declassify this stuff like this. Okay. So whatever you think about Mr.
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President Trump, and again, this is apolitical. I am, I'm an apolitical. I will work with both parties.
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Mr. President has the, sorry, President Trump has the authority right now to declassify the stuff
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and release it to the world. Who, who wouldn't want to get behind that movement?
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Like, let's send the message, release the evidence that Mr. Grush has seen. Give him immunity. Pass,
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you know, all this disclosure related legislation, pass it tomorrow. If there's nothing to hide,
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pass it. And let's see, like, why would you, you know, out there, oh, there's nothing to see here.
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And then oppose the passing of all this legislation, right? Like, let's pass the legislation. Let's
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provide protection to the whistleblowers. Look, I, you know, there are a number of other whistleblowers
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that I personally talk to firsthand people. Pass the legislation, protect us, provide,
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like, some kind of compensation. So when we lose our clearances, we lose our way of life,
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we lose our ability to put food on the table for our families. Like, why would we not do that?
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Call their bluff. Like, this is happening now. Disclosure is happening right now. And I can't
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overstate the significance of supporting this movement. Declassify the files that Mr. Grush has
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seen with his own eyes. So, and the details of that are going to come out very soon, I'm told. So,
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that's all I can say. I heard it out of his mouth. And I can tell you I was in the room.
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And I looked around the room. And I'm looking at these young, like, guys in their 20s. You know,
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the staff guys? Yeah. And their eyeballs were popping out of their head. My jaw was on the floor.
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I couldn't believe it. It was an outer body experience when I heard that.
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Next time you have one of these meetings, call me. Invite me.
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I would love to be there with us.
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Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to like...
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No, no. I know. I know. I know.
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I'm not trying to sound like I'm, you know, like hyperbole or... This is real, man. This is...
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When Grush said these things, was this information that he witnessed recently or during his previous time,
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and he was now able to start to talk about it?
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Okay. I can't... Obviously, I can't put words in his mouth. But I can tell you the impression I got
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was that... The impression I got was that he felt a little more protected to talk about this because of
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President Trump's directive to release the files. And that this... Again, this is my speculation.
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Okay. This is not what Dave... Mr. Grush said. I got the impression that he was much more relaxed,
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even though he was still not fully relaxed, because of President Trump's directive to release these files.
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And that it was something that he had seen during his official investigations just within the last few years.
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And that it... I think it had an extremely profound impact on his life when he saw this evidence that I... that he described.
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But again, that's... I'm leaving it right there.
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Yeah. Yeah. No, I appreciate that.
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You mentioned there were a few things that you could disclose today. I mean, I think the Varginia thing was
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definitely huge. You mentioned the Dave Grush thing. I didn't want to leave anything else off the table
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that you might have had that you wanted to share with us today, if there was. I'd give you the floor.
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Well, I mean, if you... I mean, if you really want to know, I guess I could...
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No. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Sorry.
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Can you help us? I've got to have a little humor here.
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But I will ask you, see if you can... We would love to have David Grush on the show here.
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And hopefully we would invite David to come on the show anytime.
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And if you could help with that link, we've been... It's something we've been trying to do.
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Hey, look, let's stay in touch. But I just want to ask your audience,
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pretty pleased with Sugar On Top. Like, if Joe Rogan is listening to this,
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we need your support right now, not tomorrow, today. We need to send a very clear message.
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I know I've gotten some information that there's going to be... I can't reveal the sources, but
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there's going to be a big drop of stuff happening tomorrow, which is Friday. And this event got the
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attention of those involved with the disclosure movement within the current executive branch
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at a very high level. They're paying attention and they need the general public to get behind this.
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We need to support this movement. It's not about me. It's not about any one of us. It's about the
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movement itself. Let's release the files that are not directly related to national security. And
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that's the entities. The fact that we are not alone. And that was the message we really tried to convey
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to the executive branch at yesterday's event.
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Love it. Well, I'm pulling for you. I'm pulling for this movement.
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This is for us. Not about me.
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Let's smash through this wall and hopefully members of Congress and the White House and anyone who's,
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you know, in the way will get pushed out of the way if there's a groundswell
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movement from people to get this information out to the public. Enough already. Enough already.
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I couldn't agree. We're never going to get any closer than we are right now. That's why I need
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the likes of like Mr. Rogan and Logan Paul. They've got the ear of the president. I've been talking with
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Republicans and they said if Rogan tweets about this, that the president will hear it. And that can't
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overstate the significance that we need people. I'm not asking for money. We're not asking for
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get on your show. We're just asking Mr. President, please, as many people as possible, release the
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files that should not be associated with national security. And that's the alien or non-human sentient
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I love it. Well, we'll do what we can here to get that message to those people. And hopefully we can get
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some movement on that and like, Hey, open invitation, David Grush. We would love to have
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you. I'll be in touch with you on that one. Awesome. Yeah. We'll text about that. So sweet.
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James Fox, a moment of contact, the new revelations, watch it. It's free right now on YouTube and Tubi.
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I'm telling you, this is an amazing documentary. I watched it with my wife. She couldn't believe it.
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But it's, it's shocking. The work that you've did, you did in Brazil, in Virginia is, is unbelievable.
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So everyone check out a moment of contact. So you understand the context of everything we're
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just talking about here, James, get some sleep. I know you've been working your off. Give my best
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Thank you so much. Appreciate you having me on.
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