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You also saw a Nordic alien?
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Where did you see a Nordic alien?
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I was visiting a friend there.
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I'll keep this one short.
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I was visiting a friend there, and I woke up the next morning after we were talking about a bunch of stuff, and he'd gone down to the store, which is quite a ways away from his property, to get some food.
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And so I'm like, oh, it's a beautiful day.
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I'm going to take a walk on his property, like 20 acres in the woods.
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So I start walking, and I come over this ridge, and there'd been no one out.
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And all of a sudden, there's this person who literally looks like a male model, like a Scandinavian male model with kind of longish blonde hair in a weird kind of more like European clothes, whatever.
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And they say, hello, Brent.
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Like, they're about 20 feet a little bit further down the hill.
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And I'm thinking, okay, I did not see his mouth move.
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First of all, how's he know my name?
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Secondly, I did not see his mouth move.
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And I was like, hello.
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And he said, turn around and walk the other way.
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And he, mouth's not moving, but he's not looking threatening.
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And I kind of was like, got it, on it, turn, and I walk away.
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And now I'm getting a little bit freaked out.
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I get a ways down, and I look back, and he's not there anymore.
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Was he tall, blonde?
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But he was further down the hill, so I didn't have a chance to look him in the eye.
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I'm 6'4", so I didn't have a chance to look at him and say, oh, this guy's 7'2", or whatever.
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But he was well put together, like a specimen, like an absolute specimen.
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So I ask, my friend comes back, and I say, okay, I just had a really weird experience.
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He goes, oh, with one of those tall white people?
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I'm like, what do you know about them?
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And he goes, they have a compound on Orcas Island.
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And he said, there's a lot of weird people that have compounds here, because there's weird energy that comes like every couple months.
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And they come in a black helicopter, unmarked, to a facility that's all gated, and there's about eight of them.
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And they come here, and they stay here for a couple days at a time, apparently when this energy is really high.
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And they get recharged.
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And I'm like, have you ever met them?
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And he goes, no, they don't.
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They're very select in who they meet.
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He goes, there's a story about a number of years ago, one of them came down into one of the pubs, right?
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And just walked through the door one day and said, I want to have a drink.
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And everyone's like, who are you?
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And he's like, I live up the way.
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And they're like, okay, cool.
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And he's like, so what's it like to live here?
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And they're like, on Orcas?
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And he goes, no, on Earth.
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And everyone was like, okay, dude, what is going on here?
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And then he had a couple drinks, and people had to get him outside.
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And he's like, no, it's okay, I'll walk home.
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Now, is that urban legend on Orcas?
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Is it a pretty prevalent urban legend on Orcas now?
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I mean, you ask almost anyone that lives on there, it's like, oh, those tall white people, they come here.
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But they're very private, they don't intermingle with people.
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I was telling you who moved there.
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I got to ask him about the tall white Nordic aliens.
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So circling this all back to Disclosure Day, it's like, you know, one of the things that Bryce and I talked about after we saw it was Spielberg told a really compelling story about gray aliens.
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That was not a human being.
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I don't know, it could have been a hybrid.
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So maybe not a true, like extraterrestrial.
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Maybe it was an ultra-terrestrial.
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Maybe it was like someone from Atlantis or, you know, there's so many theories around the Nordics.
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But that was not just a good-looking man.
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He spoke to me without opening his mouth.
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So, but none of that is touched upon in Disclosure Day.
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The other species that many people have said.
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Even at the highest levels.
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Although there was one moment where Emily Blunt is in the hospital because she spontaneously starts speaking Russian and clicking noises as a newscaster.
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And she looks out the window because there are men in black suits, presumably, I think from the FBI, who want to, like, ask her questions.
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She looks at them and she goes, they're not human.
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And so there's some ideas being seeded around elements of the intelligence community and the government itself not being human.
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Which is fascinating.
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And I always think is the hardest part of this whole disclosure thing to grapple with is the idea that they're not only are they here,
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but they're probably in charge of disclosure because they have, like, this, you know, 360 control over a lot of this stuff.
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And they're probably in charge of at least, at the very least, you know, chains of command within government, if not, like, the entire thing.
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And, like, that's really hard to say.
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Like, how do you go out?
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Then all of a sudden, disclosure is essentially seeding your control immediately.
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So, like, how do you do that?
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How do you make a speech saying, like, I'm not actually in charge.
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What do you, you know?
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No, I absolutely agree.
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We've talked about this too, that, you know, the minute that disclosure moves into, it's not just people coming to visit us from outer space, that it's much more kind of anything from Lovecraft, which is like really scary.
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They're all around us to, you know, body snatchers where it's like a bunch of humans that you think, you know, your neighbor might be an alien or might be a hybrid.
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The minute you move into the X-Men thing, we're back to the Red Scare.
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We're back to, well, wait a minute.
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So, some of the people on this planet look like humans, but they're really aliens or they're presenting as aliens, they're shape-shifting.
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Whatever they're doing, I don't like that, right?
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Because then how do I know?
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Now I don't feel, not only am I not the apex predator on the planet, I don't know who to trust or who to believe.
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You're into like a whole, that's, to me, when people talk about ontological shock, it's not just, oh, you're going to remove your free will.
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It's like, I don't know who I'm interacting with anymore.
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I mean, clearly the veil is thin with you.
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You know, I meet occasionally people, and I identify with this myself somewhat, where like they just have an absurd amount of weird synchronicities in their life.
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And there's something going on, and I don't know if it's a gradient between that and like, you know, normal people who just, you know, have like goals to like live, you know, behind the white picket fence in the house.
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And, you know, and they just want the job and they want to become partner or whatever, you know, whatever.
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But that is a type of person that like, it's like these serendipity maximizer, synchronicity maximizer types where things just kind of happen around them.
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And I don't know what that is.
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Do you have any theories?
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Do either of you have any theories?
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I don't have any stories that rate with that.
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I have, we actually have one synchronicity story that came out between the two of us.
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When we started working together, Brent was admiring my UFO books.
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And he was like, hey, you have a lot of UFO books.
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And he said, have you ever read the Mothman prophecies?
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And at the time I had not.
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And I said, no, I really haven't.
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And it's interesting because there's no Amazon at the time.
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You can't like have it delivered to your house the next day.
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So I had to go down to Melrose Place to a metaphysical bookstore and find a copy of Mothman prophecies.
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And I was reading it and I was keeping it in the backseat of my car.
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And I took my young son to see a movie.
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So like a 730 movie getting out at 930.
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And so it's sitting in the backseat.
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And as we're walking out of the movie, and, you know, it was a dark parking lot, a couple lights, but very dark.
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As we're walking out, I see a guy at the end of the cars where we're going.
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And he's a tall guy in a dark black duster jacket, you know, almost Western kind of thing.
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And he looked weird.
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I just thought, this is disturbing.
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I don't want to see anybody in a parking lot.
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I go, why don't you walk over here?
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And I said, don't make eye contact, right?
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We'll just walk past this guy.
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So we just continue to walk onto our car.
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And as this guy passes me, he is in a big, long duster jacket, black.
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And as he passes me, he's holding a book.
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And it's the Mothman prophecies.
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How does that happen?
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Well, it goes back to that Coleman Domingo character who's, you know, he's moving sets
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around while he's coordinating, you know, locations for the, you know, main characters
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to go to and kind of weaving everything together.
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He's like in this architect position.
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And it's as if there is some sort of reality management system.
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And like, you can go back to Plato's Republic.
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You have this guardian class.
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And we're chasing our tails.
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And a lot, I mean, that would be the, the little, the dirty little secret about UFOlogy
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or something would be, you know, I just had a guest on a couple of days ago named Max
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He does all sorts of amazing stuff on lunar anomalies, Mars anomalies.
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And he was like, I just wrote to the Prince of Lichtenstein, Hans Adams, who's super fascinated
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with all the UFO stuff.
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He, I think interviewed, he got all the Roswell witnesses together and he interviewed them.
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And he's just, you know, he's interested in the pair Princeton psychology, pair psychology
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And I think he, you know, he was in touch with, there's photo with him with how put off and
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like just knows everybody in the UFO world.
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And apparently he wrote a very thoughtful letter back to, to Max who, who wrote to him.
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And he was like, I, uh, you know, really tried to get to the bottom of this topic, but
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every single time, and think of it, this guy has all the resources in the world.
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Like he's, you know, probably conspiracies are made about this guy, you know, I, uh,
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I'm sure they think of him akin to, you know, the Rothschilds and the, you know, the scent
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of the heart of power, you know?
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And, uh, he's like every single time I thought I was going to get incontrovertible proof and
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Like I'd, I'd come extremely close and it would slip through my fingers.
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And I mean, honestly, that I, I feel this without that amount of resources, I feel the same
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way I, I, I feel like I'm, I'm chasing this thing and like something.
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Almost is going to happen, but then like muds mud gets slung on it.
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So like, you know, a certain amount of people just won't believe it because it looks kind
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of ridiculous or something.
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What Whitley Strieber talks about this as well, where he says, I think they chose me as a
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communication node for disclosure because I was a horror writer and you couldn't separate
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We've talked about that too.
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I mean, you are maybe our example as well.
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But at the beginning when Whitley's communion book came out because he'd been a horror writer,
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almost everybody said he's just making it up because he just, he's using what we call
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the cover of, of nonfiction.
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He's using not the cover of fiction, the cover of nonfiction.
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He was pretending that his novel was true.
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Which, which neither of us believe, but I, I can understand that perception.
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And, you know, when we've told our stories, you know, people go, but you guys are just
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Hollywood writers, right?
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Like that's what you do.
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You come up with these crazy stories.
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Um, I think in some ways the stories that we have around dark skies are more interesting
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than what we could have come up with.
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To be perfectly candid, because they're just too weird.
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They're too, like, things just don't add up.
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You know, and, and that's a hallmark of the phenomenon.
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They add up enough to keep you going.
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Down the thread, but not enough for you to stop and be like, I figured it out.
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And then when you play it back for other people, they're like, well, why would this
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It's like, oh, that's a really good question.
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They're like, what are you talking about?
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Did you do, did you take a photo?
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It's like, so all you have is this crazy story.
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But Hollywood makes sense.
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Like if you do, okay.
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So you do have some guardian class and then we're just sort of like chasing our tails
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Something I've noticed doing this show for years is that the biggest ideas usually hinge
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on one strange specific detail.
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Gary McKinnon describing a spreadsheet of non-terrestrial officers.
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Hal Puthoff explaining why CIA remote viewers tested their abilities in deep waters on submarines.
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Diana Pasolka realizing that the Vatican Observatory knew more about UFOs
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These are key details that completely change how you understand someone's story.
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