David Jacobs

I was, uh, trained by David Jacobs for two years personally on alien abductions and alien

David Jacobs is considered one of the best.

So it's, it's, it's one of those things where you just have to look back at this and say, and, and as I was investigating a lot of these really crazy cases, I would consult with David Jacobs, with Don Donderry, both of which would always tell me.

I got trained by David Jacobs on abductions and encounters.

There's a book by a guy called Dr. David Jacobs.

Are they—is that something—because now we're going into territory of, like, you're familiar, obviously, with David Jacobs.

And then David Jacobs, you know, had much more of like, no, they're deceiving.

but Hopkins and David Jacobs and Mac and all these people. And most of those guys didn't know

I'm currently reading David Jacobs the threat.

That's what John Mack would do, right? Yeah, John Mack or or the other or Jacob's, for example, David Jacobs did wrote his book there. But John Mack was