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So what happened there?
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the Intelligence Community.
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And that's very relevant.
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You got people like people, don't like him, that kind of thing.
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You can't get that out of them.
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That's been their job protective programs.
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We call it the program, the legacy program.
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And I've, and they're seductive.
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That was a, that was a psyop.
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They're trying to pretend that that existed in the capacity they say.
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They should hire you because let me just tell you, most people don't read his book and take from that what he means.
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Did you find it frustrating when he was on your podcast and you asked him about him stepping inside of a UFO and he said yes, but then he also was like very clear that he couldn't say much more than what he had said in the book.
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Like, why could he get that cleared?
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So you can submit it and say, it's, this is fact.
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And he did the fact way, right?
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I got some guesses, you know, maybe there are UFOs and they're not from here, whatever that means.
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I mean, why would you build a Ferrari not to go fast?
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You could see I'm frustrated.
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Now that's some like stone age thinking when we're in the Jetsons, you know, that we're
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I find it hilarious that that is what's making, you know, the Citadel scientific gatekeepers
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like Neil deGrasse Tyson take it seriously is the fact that it gets a stamp of approval
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If we want inner peace, we have to fight for inner peace counterintuitive, but it's true.
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I talked to some high school teachers and I talked to some professors at major universities
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all in one weekend, right?
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They were all there at the McMinimins UFO Fest, which is the finest thing in the world.
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You got to come to me next time.
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You get a golf cart and a six pack of beer.
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And I was put in jail one morning and that's a true fact.
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So what you can do is you can show other people your curiosity.
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If you have a class, none of us have the answers.
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How do we separate critical thinking?
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The average singular person with nothing, they're five followers on Twitter.
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And they're like, what do I do?
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There's a woman that came up to me.
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She's a little bit older.
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I'm like, oh, don't worry if you have five followers, say what you're thinking and tag
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every representative that is fighting for this.
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Tag the Department of War.
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That's the Department of Energy.
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And here's why I know that's what you should do.
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I think like everybody who gets interested in something other than themselves, you know,
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I don't know what station, you know.
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more and like, just dropped it.
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Like it's hot, but I never forgot that moment.
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I was sure I was just going to do the martial athletics thing my whole life.
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I didn't think I was smart enough to do other things.
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And Irestor is kicking off their summer savings with some very big discounts.
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me understand your psychology and where you're coming from, what you're motivated by.
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And I think UFO space, now, you know, I didn't need that from the movie because we've gotten
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The dude has had so many life experiences people don't know.
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Won a bunch of flight records as well.
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He takes the 35 millimeter film thing out of the camera, hides it under his ashtray,
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He goes, no, it's not my camera.
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We're taking the film.
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He was running for Senator or state Senator at the time or something.
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I'm not even a filmmaker.
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people know because it's just not out there.
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He was some sort of MK ultra, like he had bullshit.
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When someone says to you, um, this is my, this is for you to know, not to say.
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you know the horror of losing people to the ether.
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That's why today's episode is brought to you by Quo, spelled Q-U-O.
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I'm like, I a hundred percent at this point think he was there and I a hundred percent
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Are you allowed to say that?
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It was on, it was on our episode.
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And we, I said, Bob, just get on the phone with Joe, dude.
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Dude, just get on the phone.
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That was something that if I had a nickel for every time someone described the seemingly intelligent
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Well, even if you can't retrofit it onto some, but that's what it's, it sounds like.
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Can I try to get Dylan to confirm that?
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And he goes, essentially as a lawyer, right?
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So I'm a journalist.
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So I listened and I am testifying to you, believe me, or the author of a bearded tattoo journalist, a great mentor.
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Well, cause my mind, when you said pyramid, I started tripping out because I'm thinking about
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What I'm trying to say is there are certain different types of hardware that I understand
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to be held in different places.
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Uh, what, what happened was.
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I look up what brine shrimp is.
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Cause he's, you know, he's like this Mr. Rogers character of science.
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But I'm obsessed with using you of shrimp brine.
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I'm super obsessed with getting the right date.
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So you can look up the video yourself.
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That's how you know the date.
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Oh, so maybe it was a little later.
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I used to get kicked in the head for a living.
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I literally, when it comes to dates, I have to keep all in a phone and I use photos.
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So if you guys look up silver surfers, probably one of the first videos on my YouTube is probably
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Um, what happens is he goes on the news.
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I get pissed off cause I didn't know about news.
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So I call the news station.
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I said, wait a second.
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I didn't superimpose anything and they just dismissed me.
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And I'm like the fuck, but they did this like story about it.
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So I went to deep dive investigation on my UFO sighting.
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I mean, I went into like forums and like Facebook and like, what was it?
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It was called like, you know, all this stuff, um, my space.
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And I found all these people that had also filmed.
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I got six angles of this shit.
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So I went like crazy, bro.
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I tell you later about online who is there, but figured it out.
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looked real, like it had mass, but it was a hologram or something.
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I want that the world should have that.
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Is that in your job description?
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Project blue box, dude.
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You know, the things that George and I can't say, you know, um, look, man, there is a,
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He's on the inside of what he needed to know.
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Like how Bob was on power and propulsion, you know, with project Galileo.
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That's apparently what General Neil McCaslin told Tom DeLonge.
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That's what they're telling me.
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So basically, this guy, McCaslin, one of many that Tom was talking to, obviously, WikiLeaks,
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They've been watching for what seems like the beginning of recorded human history.
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And so maybe it's because we're in a nuclear multipolar world, but like the, the, the nuclear
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thing had been happening since the 50s, 60s, 70s, the tampering with the nukes and stuff.
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So I'm not a legal scholar.
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But that makes me, that makes me wonder about.
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So that's, what's funny is, um, yes and no, like there's other really good articles and
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writers and there's like great valid stories.
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So what, what my point is, what are they, what are they doing by shaping the narrative
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that's already emerging?
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But I think that applies to this, you know, 2026 or seven or 35.
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No one knows only God knows, or only some omniscient force knows.
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Or it's just complete and utter bullshit.
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Um, Matthew Sullivan was one of the 40 people that, you know, that, that number's loose.
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witnesses that I want to testify to you.
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That's crazy that maybe he was taken out.
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Dylan Borland wouldn't even know what the fuck they're talking about or how to,
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He was doing some like audit or something.
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How did he run into all of this UFO related info?
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Sees immaculate constellation.
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everything documented for self-protection also.
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Cause he's like, you know, why did, why did I get exposed to that?
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He made some mistake or, um, we won't get into all of that, but some people are not worthy of your trust
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at all journalists. Don't try to pay people ever. Jesse.
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That's not a journalist.
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There was something, bro.
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Let's not get into it. Right.
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You said you don't want to.
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So that's not, we can, if you want, but dude, let's talk about things that excited.
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One day people will understand.
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One day people will understand what makes me angry.
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I didn't know anything about.
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That's why you, no, no.
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We're not saying specifics yet.
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You might've just made an assumption.
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Well, I think I made a correct assumption, but we can just move on.
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So this is going to be so awkward for your audience, but Jesse and I, we, we made one
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agreement going on is that there's, you know, we're, we're just going to talk freely and that
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we're going to enjoy ourselves and talk about what makes us happy and inspires us and, and
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sparks our curiosity.
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It's basically what we said last night.
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So I want to, I want to do that.
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So we signed out none of these NDA shit.
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We don't got to do fuck, fuck all when it comes to UAP stuff.
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I actually tell people like a young kid called me from a base and you know, blah, blah, blah.
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photos and that sort of thing.
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saw the same stuff and more than he did, they don't have the same worldview.
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And like, and you mentioned stuff around, um, you know, your, your personal life being encroached on.
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I've had similar things that freak me out.
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Don't think about those attacks.
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