It's crazy. Exactly.
Which is wild. The blue documents, he read that Jesus was some type of hybrid.
I am likely to be the reincarnation of the daughter of Mary Magdalene and Jesus.
I had an experience when I was a kid back in June 22, 1980.
If there's, if there's one thing that I have to say and my whole team says, and my mom says is thank you, Chris Ramsey.
Of course.
It, it, it's like, I'm 51.
I just turned 51 three days ago.
Um, but I would have to have the technology that we have now to make two years happen.
And I started pretending that I was Bob Lazar and people would start asking me questions
I think it's so great because it's, it's kind of like the Netflix of like UFO stuff.
Right.
Is what you're trying to create.
Talk to me about it.
That was back in 19.
So I remember.
How old were you again?
Of course not.
You know what I mean?
So I was like, what am I gonna do?
Because I was completely oblivious to the fact that all I am is a member.
Yeah.
Beyond it.
Even astronomy or space or the, you know, was not cool.
Yeah.
There's a whole pocket of people that are incredibly accepting of this stuff.
And the people that aren't are so busy doing other things now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That they don't waste time being like, that stuff ain't real.
Yeah.
They're just kind of like, well, I like this.
You like that.
Exactly.
Okay.
So be it.
I don't have a long, you know, analyzing me if I'm normal look from people anymore.
Right.
Which is a big deal.
Yeah.
Like when was your head injury?
Well, most people would always, especially, you know, obviously if I talk about family,
friends or people that were closer, they would always worry, you know, like, oh, they would be
like, so how are you?
You know, how's everything?
You're still looking into that stuff.
So it was never like, oh, it's interesting.
It's more like, are you out of it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you okay?
You better.
You know?
Yeah.
So I remember when I started, it's hilarious.
Cause I remember when I started stepping away publicly from it.
And I say that because again, I'm going to go back real fast.
Still now.
Yeah.
Cause I'm like, what if I have to present something now?
I always thought that this was going to be like, am I ready for this type of thing?
I'm gonna tell people, uh, I can't tonight.
Cause I have to go to do that or I'm doing this.
Like that's how it was all treated.
So, and then in the newspaper wasn't mentioned at all.
So a lot of, a lot of MUFON investigations turned out to be very conventional, non extraterrestrial.
What percentage?
Yeah.
Or right after the video.
It was full room, full auditorium and there's a pause.
So we're all wait.
And I, and I, I, I, I'm interested in more.
She immediately grabbed the phone and said, who is this man on the phone who believes me?
It's dogmatic. I don't want to touch it.
So she, she had warned us and then said that.
And, and I'll, I, I'll admit me too.
I was just like, oof, this is going to be awkward tonight.
Jenny's a friend of ours.
Uh, Jenny is, is also a dancer for Cirque du Soleil.
I swear to you.
It did.
It wasn't a, a, a disc shape.
It looked like an, like a, uh, in between a black triangular craft and something that had, I would almost call it like, like, uh, energetic features on its sides.
had not worked out mostly because she had to go back to England and he was not going
to move there.
She sits there and she's in the kitchen and she she's having tea.
Cause she's from great Britain.
And I saw this thing when she said it.
So it's, it's a struggle that was happening inside of me.
It's like, it's just an apartment building.
There's nothing going on.
It's boring.
It's you're not going to see anything.
So we went all the way upstairs.
We got in, we got to the 14th floor.
We go to that apartment door and she's just standing there.
And she's like, yeah, she goes, this is where it happened.
I said, yeah, and that's it.
Okay.
Get back in the car.
And as we're driving, I go in front of the, uh, St.
Joseph's oratory in Montreal, which is a gigantic church.
And it just happened to go there.
And she looked at it and she goes, oh, that's beautiful.
I said, and I thought in my head, oh, that's a cool place to show her because we're right
here just because she's never been in Montreal and it's a beautiful view up there.
I said, well, actually, you know what?
Let me show you something.
Cause you could drive up there and then you get to see the whole city.
It's a beautiful view.
So I said, let's go look at the view.
So I bring her up there and she goes, let's go inside really fast.
And now anybody who's ever been there, it's a ginormous church.
The, the, the church is gigantic.
I'm just relaying a story.
And the reason why I'm saying it because of what's gonna follow.
And the human hands over the baby.
This little girl to her is just going like this.
Everybody's hugging.
Okay.
Now I knew the answer, but I had to pretend that I didn't know.
So I put him on speaker and I said, Sarah, he's asking if the name Lily means anything to you.
There's no way that could have been just some fucking magical.
No, the name and everything.
Her name is Emily, not Emily.
Trim, another Emily.
I cannot explain that, Chris.
I have done hundreds, if not thousands of reports of these things in my life.
Uh, they, you know, you would very protective of their kids, which is normal, completely normal.
You met the kid.
And it's so interesting.
And I'm going to say something else that again, it's crazy.
Um, I was always thinking, I've always had that in the back of my mind.
I, I used to have that in the back of my mind every single day that I was, I would wake up.
And I said, let's do, she says, let's go.
So it was so, it was like a, I didn't like, it made that those decisions in an hour.
So we finally get off the exit to go to Bethlehem was, I took a picture of it.
I have it somewhere.
Yeah.
So did Sarah.
It looked like lily.
Okay.
And what are the lilies signify?
And why.
And for holiness and divine beauty.
Criticized the same way I used to get criticized in the eighties.
If I, if we, both of us, you're, you're very become prominent person in this.
And I just made a film now, but other than that, I'm no longer as active as I used to be.
And if you and I were starting to go do talks and we start talking about Jesus and aliens in the same talk, we're gonna go from here to here real fast, no matter how open the conversation is.
And no matter how less judgmental society has become, that's kind of a.
There's a taboo.
There's a taboo.
And especially, and like, I'm, I'm pretty agnostic when it comes to this stuff.
Like, and I know you, uh, you are pretty much as well.
Like it's, it's more of like the, I don't know.
I don't know.
And I'm happy to just listen.
Yeah.
Um, but.
You know, tying this back to Bob Lazar, there's also a Jesus connection there.
It's crazy.
Exactly.
Which is wild.
Which.
Documents.
He read the Jesus was some type of hybrid or something.
Absolutely.
And we had a conversation about that.
He doesn't, didn't absolutely did not want me to put any of that in the, in the film, because in, in the story of Bob Lazar, Bob was given access to a bunch of folders that were inside the briefing room.
Gene Huff says the way it was written.
Cause he remembered how Bob said that it was written.
So there's a whole book about, you know, uh, I also have.
I did not think we'd be talking about Bob Lazar and Jesus, by the way, before we started this podcast.
Yeah.
It was, it was something about left behind or left behind with somebody else.
So Lane did those regressions, took notes, handwritten notes at the time.
And when I had, uh, when I interviewed Lane Keck, who by the way, is an incredible person, wonderful man, very thankful that he participated.
What gives you that impression?
There was just too many people in Gulf Breeze that had seen the craft flying around there in 1987, 88, 89.
You can't invent two, three hundred people.
There's not going to be a, nobody's going to believe that you were, you managed to do that unless it's a film.
That's a good question.
By not quite human.
That's exactly what, uh, what do you call it?
Uh, think about Travis Walton, you know?
Yeah.
That's the thing.
I mean, uh, given to, so they're for sure dabbling with this stuff.
So whether it's derived from NHI or not, it certainly feels that way to us now.
Um, also I want to do something.
Let me know if you, this is okay.