There's no one better to walk us into that mystery than today's guest, Aldo Ribello.
To Ribello, the real question isn't whether the phenomenon has occurred.
So with that, enjoy this historic conversation with Aldo Ribello,
I'm here with Aldo Ribello, who is a former minister of the Chamber of Deputies,
So thank you so much for your time, Mr. Ribello, Minister Ribello.