You are currently running against Lula and Bolsonaro,
Speaking of controversies between present and former presidents in the United States, I think you are very interesting because you exist at the intersection between Lula and Bolsonaro.
Obviously, you worked with Lula.
Therefore, I always attempt to see the positive sides of both Lula and Bolsonaro.
Here in Brazil, why does Lula have so much prestige?
I was a minister under Lula.
Lula obviously pulled a lot of Brazilians out of poverty.