Brazil's former minister of defense, current presidential candidate, and a man who's spent decades at the center of Brazilian power.
This is the former Brazilian Minister of Defense sitting across from me, telling me it was real.
In America, our equivalent would be a former Secretary of Defense, like a Jim Mattis or a Robert Gates,
It's where it came from, why it was here, and what it means for the future of science, society, defense,
Brazil's former Minister of Defense, current presidential candidate,
former minister of defense, former minister of sport,
You said as former defense minister, I am provoked to speak on the subject.
especially with regards to phenomena that is related to national defense concerns.
and the Brazilian intelligence and defense systems.
could pose a risk to national defense and security.
pertaining to national security and national defense,
the Defense Ministry.
especially in the areas of defense,
And this could also be an effort that is more in the interest of science than the interest of defense.
Because really, when it comes to the national defense of countries,
However, in terms of threats or risks or even damage for the defense of Brazil, the United States, England, Russia,
So therefore, from the point of view of national defense,
So much so that the concerns in Brazil in the area of defense have subsided.
So I believe that this should be the object of a multilateral agreement among countries, with the inclusion of the two most important key elements, which are the fields of defense and of science, the world of science, perhaps an international conference to be responsible for that.
A consultation with experts, scientists, physicists, and experts in defense, so that the world can start looking into this with more transparency, more responsibility, and more scientific curiosity.
not just defense but national security which is broader yeah i mean uh you had a a base there isa
of defense of science and obviously the u.s would definitely be concerned that such an object didn't fall in the wrong hands
so it's a matter of national security of national defense and also of science because you could reveal a whole world
and there is indeed close contact between the two defense departments especially when that phenomenon
took place i mean both brazil's defense department and that of the u.s i have no doubt about that
because we have a history of cooperation when it comes to defense that dates back to the second world war
cooperation in the military and defense came to be with the united states because in italy there was a
you were a defense minister under dilmar rousseff in 2015 2016. uh did you look into ufos
in that official capacity at all no we had other concerns inside of the ministry of defense we have a
ministry of defense and as with any other institution we have classified data and information
The information that's held by the Ministry of Defense is strictly classified.
And so I think it's amazing to have a former defense minister, current presidential candidate, who is kind of the ideological backbone of a lot of modern Brazilian politics, say in such a kind of passe way that, of course, UFOs are real.
So, this issue of investigating UFOs, objects, unidentified objects that appear here and there, is far removed from the demands of the authorities that tend to administrative issues and defense in governments.
The defense of the country's unity, etc.
And I worked alongside Bolsonaro for more than 20 years on the same Committee of Foreign Affairs and National Defense.
The agenda of national value, national defense, national science, national technology, national diplomacy, infrastructure, employment, increasing income.
And basically any military branch that sees a UFO, they are mandated to give that information to the Central Aerospace Defense Command.
Speaking of which, military attachés, when I was Minister of Defense, wouldn't introduce themselves as Air Force attachés.
or the possibility of the militarization of aerospace, we are not just talking about air defense, we are talking about aerospace defense.
Either you prepare for that, or you cannot fulfill your duties, your mission in the defense of space and in the defense of aerospace.