This Joe Rogan Experience segment with Dean Radin proposes the “Ultraterrestrial” hypothesis, suggesting some UAPs aren’t visitors from other planets but an intelligence that co-evolved with humanity on Earth, potentially for millions of years. Researchers like Gary Nolan and Hal Puthoff are cited as taking this idea seriously, pointing to anecdotal evidence and ancient depictions as possible proof. The theory aims to explain UAP behavior difficult to reconcile with interstellar travel and suggests possible influence on human history and consciousness. While highly speculative, the discussion highlights the need for scientific investigation into UAPs beyond the traditional extraterrestrial explanation, acknowledging the challenges of obtaining concrete evidence. Ultimately, it posits a non-human presence already here as a potential source of these mysterious phenomena.