Tim Phillips was basically the director who took over after homeboy Kirkpatrick over there at Arrow.
And it is now kind of patently obvious that the first iteration of this under Sean Kirkpatrick was literally a fly trap for, you know, UFO information.
Just like Kirkpatrick.
Kirkpatrick wouldn't meet with me.
But they wanted me to go and talk to Kirkpatrick.
And Kirkpatrick ducked me.