Office of Director of National Intelligence,
Directors Initiative Group, The Dig,
the police of the intelligence agencies,
that there is a UFO program
been around the block,
more or less,
a classmate of Donald Kehoe who formed an ICAP.
Yeah.
And then they joined together and Hillencoder.
And Dave set a foundation publicly and all of us are coming out and we're supporting what has been done for decades.
Yeah.
you know,
but when I left the air force,
They're like in there,
they're,
I'm sure there were edge cases that you didn't agree with and you can't do anything about that.
And that's shitty.
Yeah.
It sucks,
I think all of us who come out world have that feeling,
you know,
I'll tell you a story.
well,
when I was doing that,
my dad came up to visit,
he's a Navy vet and he was actually stationed at Norfolk and he came up to visit me and we were hanging out and,
some stuff went down.
and he wants Starbucks.
I don't drink coffee.
So I was like,
dude,
I'll go chill with you.
And I remember some really wicked stuff went down that weekend and I'll never forget.
I just got off of a four day Panama shift and I'm with my dad down there at Langley Hampton Roads and I'm in line.
He's grabbing his coffee and I'm sitting there thinking in line while he's getting a coffee,
everything I know that I just did for the last four days.
And it's like,
what the hell is this?
It's a weird thing,
because you have to,
you have to be able,
it's almost like disassociation.
You have to be able to immediately trigger it to turn it on and go.
knowing that the reality of this is happening.
Yeah.
I think we'll fill in some stuff on the weaponized interview.
there's some other stuff that I don't want to get into that is well known in the IC that it did while it happened.
I can feel the stack electricity.
The phone's turned off.
As I said,
my opinion is commercial jet level.
So it turned your phone off.
that is what I'm looking for.
I got a lot of questions.
Or find ketone IQ at Target stores nationwide and get your first shot free.
The triangle manifested, decloaked, insert however it came to be.
And you're sure we have craft in hangers all over the country.
We have, we have craft that were not made by humanity at the time we recovered them.
I'll bring you forward.
Ghosted.
It was this whole ordeal in the middle of the night.
Um, what was in the box?
Can you say generically you were, you were working on special access programs?
100%.
Um, and, uh, yeah.
Okay.
It's a very specific program.
So why is Congress creating a law saying that the following year from whistleblowers coming forward after Dave comes with 40 other witnesses kind of coincidental.
Don't you think?
They are allowed to prosecute whistleblowers for espionage.
And so this idea would be that if you were to tell that to the IC inspector general, the intelligence community inspector general, who's kind of playing this judicial role within the intelligence community.
Then you'd be able to be prosecuted.
So plead the fifth on that one.
You know, I, there's no plead the fifth.
It seems to be maybe an analogy for like free energy or some like device that's like all powerful.
And then in my mind, I'm like, how real is this?
Well, yeah, there was the.
Temperatures and all of it.
Excuse my language.
Sorry for the F-bomb.
Luckily, I kind of encapsulated myself where I've been very closed off.
And even when you and I first talked, you know, it's never been an issue to get in touch with me.
Everybody knows how to get in touch with me.
But what you said in my experience with everybody else is very true.
Yeah.
And that is very true.
You get surrounded.
And it's even a concern now.
Like, I have friends who went to war with me against the CIA and DNI internally.
Like, went to war and said, I can prove you're lying and did so.
But you're absolutely right.
And then you get into the whole thing with, like, how they use this against you.
It's like, you bring it up.
It's like, oh, you're paranoid.
Well, no, I'm not paranoid.
Why are you coming at me saying all of a sudden, like, oh, join this board.
Join this group.
Come into this meeting.
It's like, you never gave a damn until right now.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Intent, my man.
Intent.
Totally.
Well, I think intent translates over time.
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I am not aware of that.
What you got to remember is after I became a whistleblower in 23, I knew where to look already, and I began ripping data legally.
Iran-Contra style stuff.
Absolutely.
You know, like no habeas corpus hits done on people, you know, all sorts of shit.
And this just happened to me and Contact in the Desert.
And I heard through the grapevine that that had happened.
I know they were in legacy.
Like, oh, I caught a bass that was this size.
And you tell everybody else it was this size.
You don't have to say.
I plead the fifth.
Okay.
He worked for Senator Jack Reed.
They knew some of the stuff I was saying.
And I had the true one.
So do you have any sense of the difference between the false and the true one?
Yes, 100%.
Per the guy who called them committing a felony.
He said, I created a forthdrawing I never created.
Yeah, that's absolutely hypothetically.
Yeah, you know, classifying a hieroglyphic while simultaneously saying all of this stuff is fake just feels like you are really talking out of the, you know, two sides of your mouth there.
You know, you have, again, maybe some biologics, all these things.
I sent it to ODNI with the police report.
I have the voicemail from the police on my phone.
Uh, and then they had to do with an air horn who claimed he was an old retired army ranger.
If you want an answer to it, I'll pull my medical records.
I mean, I do because I learned enough now.
But again, here's the irony is going back to this whole subject.
You have that leaked phone call where they are literally saying we are testing veterans, military, government officials.
Who have had experiences.
I told the very first conversation I had with Jeremy, I said, Jeremy, I don't know you.
You don't know me.
I'm going to go become a congressional whistleblower if anything happens to me.
Yeah, fair enough.
And even if you don't trust them and you think they're bad faith actors, they still would classify.
So all of those places, based off of my testimony, would have been documented by them with a classification guidance saying, that was one of ours, classify it.
They didn't do it.
Do you think there are any non-governmental, transnational organizations that deal with UFOs?
100, yes, I do.
And do you have any sense of who these organizations are?
I have ideas, but I don't want to get into it.
Again, it's hypotheses.
Yeah.
You know, I'm very, like I keep saying, I'm looking at this from a fact perspective, trying to find answers myself.
But I think all of us would be naive, like we talked about last night, which is there has to be some type of agreement, minimally, globally, if not with whatever we're encountering.
Because China and Russia could blow up America's spot.
We talk about Operation Midnight Climax.
We talk about all this.
You look at social media manipulation.
China and Russia could literally embarrass the US with what they know on this, and they don't do it.
So now back to intent.
So there has to be some type of transnational agreements, organizations.
I'm pretty sure it's true, man.
You said you think that UFO abductions, alien experiences, you know, people kind of being able to see beyond the veil a little bit and make contact runs in families.
And all of these things are really hard to attribute in a terrestrial context.
You know, only up until the last couple of years has the intelligence community, people from the CIA and NSA,
So I brought this up.
George Knapp, under oath in front of Congress, which can be used as evidence with the Securities Exchange Commission, literally said,
Holy shit.
I think they've been here a long time.
Who's really interesting, fascinating case.
And seems like a very deep thinker.
I miss him every day.
And who was he?
Thigpen.
What about not human?
Yeah.
I think it would be unfair and I don't want to muddy the waters.
I'm very much on a trajectory of, I want the truth to be told.
and, uh, you have responded with the sample and one you were responding to that.
I didn't respond to the sample.
And I think that you are a reflection of not just who you are genetically, but society.
Like, uh, don't blame me what the streets made me stuff, but also who you are genetically
She was like, I was just thinking about him on my walk.
Cause I wonder, I was wondering if he was a UFO into UFOs.
borders of, you know, stability where like things might start to like get really crazy all on nuclear.
These things sort of show up and it's like, you're not in charge and we're going to like mess with you.
He's like, Dylan, I care about you.
So, you know, when we talked to other whistleblowers, like I said, um, I would love to name them,
Um, we are literally trying to make sure whistleblowers kids get food.
while Dave is working with Burleson's office, get them in touch with people to say, we went
through this and we went through this when nobody was around.
And, uh, this goes back to me being here and I love it.
Definitely the top for our locked in.
But you'd go B run over Biggie and Tupac.
That's, that's where I run.
Cause I'm, I've been doing classic rock and I've been doing like more like New York rap lately.
Yeah.
So I, I, I'm, I'm like all over the place.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.