to Joe's credit.
And like Joe, um, had asked me about my first film patient 17.
He actually, the first DM I ever did was Joe taught me via, it was a, it was a, a public
And, um, so then Joe, to his absolute credit kind of kept tabs, I think on the stuff going
So the thing is, I said, Joe, it was a phone call.
But Joe said these magic words to me.
So I remember texting Joe like, um, okay, I'm going to need you to ask him because I've
And we, I said, Bob, just get on the phone with Joe, dude.
And I was like, so I get him on the speaker phone and, and Joe talks to them.
And Joe got him.
Didn't Joe talk about some, um, tic-tac shaped metallic object.