This is really cool.
We did it quietly on the radio twice.
You got to vet him, right?
And that I'm on cosmic time.
and I always like sip them, you know, just to stay on the level.
I think Gary Nolan was there with us, and he did actually take a shot with me.
We've been exploiting their derivative technologies for decades.
We've made very little progress, but a little bit.
And there were biologics just means pilots, beings, non-human.
And that was the assessment of, that's what he followed up with.
That's what David Gresh did.
He popped the balloon.
And now we're all just trying to like, catch up.
And you're talking about a guy who handled the presidential daily brief, was well regarded
by a lot of his colleagues.
I also, in the name of vetting, he was one of the guys who I got to know.
You got him on camera first and brought him out.
So you know him very well.
Actually, Colt Hart did.
Oh, okay.
It doesn't matter.
But I also had known him for a couple of years before.
Yes, sir.
And I met some of his colleagues.
And they all just spoke about him in super high regard.
Even colleagues who weren't working with him in an official capacity investigating UFO
programs.
They just worked with him in other capacities that are prosaically well regarded.
He lived his whole life.
I say in the shadows, right?
Lekatsky said on my program with George, you know, he gave a warning about two things.
One is the protective programs and the disinformation that he knows he never identified who somebody
And he is scared about that, that because of the secrecy, which he doesn't want full secrecy on this, but because of it, we are going to fall behind with the American mechanics of how to interrogate the UAP problem.
Well, and that's, and that's, what's really interesting about his new book, new insights at the end of it, he goes into a bunch of modalities and frameworks that he clearly wants spread among young STEM students all over the country.
And is it true?
seeding your authority to this higher thing that's flying with impunity at your most, around
your most sensitive sites around your nuclear installations, tampering with the nukes themselves.
You can't take anything.
It's not just one person's thing.
You get a golf cart and a six pack of beer.
It sounds epic.
Rep Luna, great job.
Keep fighting.
They're fucking fantastic.
They're amazing.
I was 13.
That's what I was thinking.
Cause I thought then obviously it's not hummingbirds.
So you pass it on one generation otherwise, and it's gone because it's a physical art.
It's not written down.
all at once.
The same type of technology NASA studied for skin healing in space.
And I recorded it.
I'm like, holy shit.
Start talking about soul catchers on the moon.
He wrote to me, it's Groom Lake, you moron.
It is the most joyous belly laughing, almost like wink at the same time.
You know what that's like.
But in UFO land.
Yeah, sure.
He was UFO Jesus.
Uh, I think, um, Bob, when I get a respectful moment of silence, Bob, um, I don't know if
you're telling the truth, but I do know from knowing John, the entire world within this UFO
And the energy density on it is phenomenal.
And I, and I was just looking at him like, holy fuck.
But you stress, you wanted to know where he was coming from.
You felt.
Is there something I don't know?
I had, I had very solid.
Good reason to know that Lazar was correct.
It has over 3000 reviews there, and more than 90,000 businesses rely on it to stay connected.
So it has an amazing track record.
And so the question then becomes, do you protect this guy?
Do you blow up his life?
And it was just like, no.
And I go, okay, well, what?
Just getting into it and you know, talking about.
I can do yes.
Right now.
Okay.
Yeah.
Dylan Borland.
That's Larry King.
Okay.
That is all respect.
All respect to Larry.
No, no, no.
He was awesome.
But you know what he did when I walk in with Larry King and Bob, I'm like, you know, nervous,
but for Bob, because I'm making him do this thing early morning, I come in, Larry King looks at me
and he just like winks at me like a 1950s.
Like you're going to be okay, kid.
But I wasn't the nervous one.
You know, it was funny.
He was a cool dude.
He was a cool dude.
Yeah.
So Dylan Borland.
So friend, intelligent, balls like church bells, a man of faith, husband, animal lover and protector,
honest, nervous at times, endured extreme adversity, endured extreme adversity.
two to three times the size of the corner lights.
The craft itself was this black metallic flake paint.
Were we operating?
It was at ours.
It's like putting a Ferrari engine in a Pinto, you know, and then you try to drive that fast
on those wheels.
Now, the problem is I already knew about it.
We'll get to that if you want.
So they're targeting us.
What do you think?
Do you think that's real?
Just top level thing.
They were so not interested in a solved UFO case.
It's a problem with, uh, you know, a lot of the reporting.
Jesse, maybe that's not a UFO, you know, spacecraft that it's instantaneous.
So if you give me information, you should give it to the government, first of all,
No, I'm just, I'm going like this, but we're going to hold them accountable.
And they know that we can, they know exactly how we can.
They were told a couple of the veterans were told, well, we're taking notes.
People want to talk with you.
They're born in Roswell, New Mexico, bro.
Bigotless.
Bigotless.
Oh yeah.
Because that's important.
I found the people that want you not to know, but not the people that do know the full thing.
His music too.
I don't.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So, so, okay.
He didn't tell me that.
So after I saw it got cut out of his leg.
So all these people are coming from a military intelligence, national defense point standpoint.
They have to think about it.
I will tell you this.
I'll get, maybe I'll, I'll text you more specific.
We'll put some images in and just fucking blast them out.
Or is it to acclimate you for something that they know is going to occur?
That that's the other possibility.
And I hear mutterings of that all the time, all the time of like, you know, certain dates.
And, you know, and I, I, I almost like the, the, um, book of Matthew of like, you know, only God knows
the, the, the day or whatever on the apocalypse that applies to, and that has its own stigma.
And I shouldn't even say, you know, reference those things in the context of kind of a more
scientific conversation.
But I think that applies to this, you know, 2026 or seven or 35.
No one knows only God knows, or only some omniscient force knows.
Or it's just complete and utter bullshit.
Or it's a BS.
Yeah.
And the funny thing is I can call BS like I did on that.
I tried to get out ahead of, you know, you're behind the eight ball, I'm going to be ahead of
the eight ball.
Yeah.
And then when I came out and said, look, all these Intel people, I have taken all of this
information, these conversations, all this data.
I basically run it through, um, a way to look for key repeated words.
Mm-hmm .
It's because people like you have said to me that you were getting that same.
Shit.
Oh yeah.
We almost got it and he's dead.
Matthew Sullivan.
He had direct, direct hands on with the craft.
That would be like Lazar, wouldn't it?
Um, to get somebody to break out of that cage is dangerous for a lot of reasons.
The first release is a bunch of videos, a bunch of documents.
I met his dad, his mom.
That was a thing.
He has endured more than I'm comfortable saying here.
It looks like a working report.
Um, and they're like, okay, cool.
Um, cause not everything's cleared for him yet.
I think it's so much more interesting, but, but, but it's an important heuristic.
If a person is also, you know, a conduit for information.
They own you and you're fucked.
Mm-hmm .
And then you narrow it down to let's say 50 people.
Now they feel like they want to tell Congress or Senate or a formally report.
How hard is it?
Not, not, not, that was a segue in my head.
Matthew Brown tried to do everything under God that he could do the right way.
to get into my head for later.
Yeah.
I'm trying to stay on your track.
Yeah.
It is the beginning of infinity.
I am hopeful that we're going to get somewhere, but the only way we get there is if we push
I love it.
There we go.
You got a lot of people that, you know, are suspicious of you.
And we need to identify that and we need to bring it into the light and you're not going to quit because you told me just now that you do have people that love you and support you about keep going.
And it feels, it feels like a mission that's higher than me.
Never look back.